The Progressive Miseducation of America
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In this episode, Dr. Michael Easley welcomes Holly Pivec and R. Douglas Geivett to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and their book Counterfeit Kingdom. The conversation unpacks how NAR leaders redefine apostleship, distort biblical terminology, and promote teachings that undermine the gospel. Holly and Doug explain how NAR apostles claim authority and revelation outside of Scripture, creating fear of demonic attack for those who refuse to submit. They highlight how this movement distorts the gospel by shifting the focus from Christ’s finished work on the cross to dominion theology, signs, and wonders.
The guests also address the dangers of Bethel music as a vehicle for spreading NAR doctrine, the redefinition of prayer into declarations and decrees, and the damage caused by false prophecies and failed miracles. They describe how NAR teaching fuels church splits, damages marriages, and divides families, all while advancing a Seven Mountain Mandate that seeks control over major areas of society.
Dr. Easley, Holly, and Doug caution listeners to recognize these counterfeit teachings and cling to the authority of Scripture. This episode calls believers to remain vigilant, discerning, and grounded in the truth of the gospel.
Holly grew up in a Christian home and discovered Christian apologetics when she was in junior high, after her father gave her a book written by Josh McDowell. That’s when she understood that Christianity is not based on blind belief or wishful thinking, but it’s founded on factual evidence—including the historical evidence for Christ’s resurrection. That discovery strengthened her faith and emboldened her to share it with others.
Holly has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University. She was the University Editor at Biola for nearly a decade and also served as managing editor of the award-winning Biola Magazine. Together with Biola professor Doug Geivett, she co-authored four books about NAR: Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church; Reckless Christianity: The Destructive New Teachings and Practices of Bill Johnson, Bethel Church, and the Global Movement of Apostles and Prophets; A New Apostolic Reformation? A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement, and God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement.
Douglas Geivett’s interests range over the philosophy of religion, philosophical theology, epistemology and the history of modern philosophy. He is the author of Evil and the Evidence for God and co-editor of Contemporary Perspectives on Religious Epistemology and In Defense of Miracles: A Comprehensive Case for God’s Action in History. Geivett has contributed chapters to God Matters: Readings in the Philosophy of Religion; God Under Fire; The Rationality of Theism; and Does God Exist? The Craig-Flew Debate. Geivett is the former president of the Evangelical Philosophical Society. In the past, Geivett has served as minister to college students at churches in the Pacific Northwest and in Southern California and continues to speak in churches and on university campuses on subjects related to apologetics and the Christian life.
Counterfeit Kingdom by R. Douglas Geivett and Holly Pivec
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